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Dave Clawson
I certainly hope the Columbia search committee isn't in a super rush to make a decision.
That's because, if the reports are true... Bowling Green may soon fire Head Coach Dave Clawson.
Clawson is the former Fordham and Richmond head coach, and frankly he was one of the best opposing coaches I've ever seen in all my years watching Columbia football.
Strangely, Clawson's best Fordham team - the 2002 squad - lost to Columbia in the first-ever Liberty Bowl. That would be the only game the Lions would win that year.
Clawson hasn't exactly been a washout at BG, it's just that it's on a bit of a decline in what is a very difficult conference. Also, BG has lost to in-state rival Ohio University all three years of Clawson's tenure.
I suspect Fordham will also try like the Dickens to get Clawson back, so if Bowling Green does can him it would be nice if a decision is made this week.
We're waiting...
posted by Jake @ 8:23:00 PM
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46 Comments:
If Clawson gets fired like you say, and he heads back to the FCS, I guarantee he's not going back to Fordham. Richmond is looking for a new head coach and they'll be making a hard pitch to get him back there.
Clawson is also Bob Shoop's best friend, no bid for Clawson just as a result of association.
Jake,
I've played the name game (Tressel and Gill), but in truth I think it less than productive because the candidates are all over the lot (high school, DIII, IAA and IA). The best that can be achieved from this blog is a defined set of traits we'd like to see in the next coach. My list is:
1. Prior HC experience at the AA level or above; and
2. National reputation that translates to demonstrated recruiting ability.
If the next guy has that, he'll have a reasonable chance for success.
Jake haven't you learned anything from Yale's head coach search a few years ago. If Gilmore, Clawson, Brown, Addazio, did not have any interest in the Yale job, what makes you think they would ever be interested in the Columbia job? If you want to keep dreaming about these candidates then feel free, but I am more inclined to think that Columbia will end up with a relative no name a la Williams and Surace.
The biggest knock on the Wilson regime from my standpoint was the abysmal third quarter performance of the team this year. That tells me something: we need sombody who is a great on the field coach, who can make half time adjustments, anticipate the other team's half time adjustments, and not delegate too much game time authority to the coordinators. The guys who picked our pockets this year with half time adjustments included Austin, Bags and Murphy.
We need a guy that can recruit DC to Atlanta. If we can "win" that area, we can win the IVY.
Also, we need to follow Princeton's lead and play home/away series with schools like Georgetown, Hampton, VMI, and Davidson. Let soem of these kids play winnable games closer to home.
To the Mon Nov 28, 08:47:00 AM PST poster. You make some good points, but, the best coaches in the country do not call offenseive/defensive plays at all. LSU, Alabama, Penn State, Michignan etc. The key is to having the right person in those positions and making changes if needed.
Clawson is an interesting possibility, but I would rather see Whipple or Gilmore as our new head coach. Whipple is a proven winner and innovator who turned the Brown program around. Gilmore is also a proven winner, excellent recruiter and very smart.
Rick Neuheisel is now available.
I agree with the suggestion that we should try to play the Virginia/North Carolina area schools. Certain men's basketball is heading in that direction with games against Elon last season and Furman this season.
VA and NC Play better HS football than any state in the north east. Also, unlike the deep South, they also produce a lot of kids that are capable students at the IVY level.
We should be recruiting the VA Prep League and the large public schools in NoVa, Richmond, Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill, and Charlotte. Tidewater VA is a gold mine. I know a few HS coaches down there and they say Princeton made a lot of head way in that area by playing Hampton.
If we aren't willing to make a commitment to stellar recruiting, then maybe we need to consider a coach that runs some gimmick optionoffense like Navy or GT or Mike Leach's Texas Tech Air Raid.
Does anybody have any clue how much they are going to be willing to pay?
Seems like that is something we shoudl know before speculating on who might be on the list.
The cut off for salary will be in the $800,000/ yr range
Columbia needs to think outside the box. College football keeps hiring the same guys with same results. How about someone with ties to California? Look at the All Ivy team. 8 first team players from California.
i think, if you look at the statistics, it doesnt matter where you recruit..CU needs a specific type of player, whether they are from California, the Midwest or South. There are groups that send out tape on almost every kid, CU may or may not be picking the wrong type of kid. I think CU currently has the kids to compete, which seems to be a minority opinion, absed upon the blogs here.
CU suffers from an inability to do the basics (tackling, lack of penalties, turnovers, etc. Certain types of schemes require certain types of kids.
On the salary front, how about making it performance oriented, low base with a bonus if certain criteria are met?
Urban Meyer is apparently getting 6 million from Ohio State. He'll have a better year than the average Goldman Sachs partner. As far as what we are willing to pay, how about 50% of whatever we pay Lee Bollinger. A good coach will raise at least 50% of whatever Bollinger raises.
CU is willing to pay 800,000 a yr? Is that for the entire staff? How did you get this figure?
Much easier to get a kid from the mid atlantic to come to NYC rather than to come all the way across the country.
If you are looking for west coast ties, the Navy OC has them as well as mid atlantic.
The Richmond Times-Dispatch is reporting today that Dave Clawson is staying at Bowling Green. See below:
RICHMOND, Va. - There will be no return engagement for Dave Clawson as University of Richmond football coach, at least not this time around.
Clawson led the Spiders to a pair of FCS playoff appearances 2004-07, and brought together the team that Mike London coached to the 2008 national championship and to an 11-2 record in 2009. Clawson on Monday answered “no comment” when asked if UR officials had reached out to him about the Spiders’ job. But he did say that he is happy as Bowling Green’s coach and will not be coming back to UR.
“I’m committed to being at Bowling Green and continuing to improve the program here,” Clawson said.
On Saturday, Clawson completed his third season at BGSU. Wayne Lineburg was UR’s coach for this season, and is a candidate for the job. Clawson strongly supports Lineburg’s candidacy. Lineburg was Clawson’s offensive coordinator at UR 2004-06.
$800,000? That's more than 40 (out of 120) FBS (Division I-A) head coaches make. For that kind of money, FCS (Division I-AA) head coaches would coach the Walking Dead.
I doubt Columbia will pay anything close to $800K for a football coach, if that is what 1:10 meant. If CU were to that, the faculty would mutiny in a second, and rightly so.
I bet it is less than 300k
Also, in retrospect did shop have a better record than norries?
An earlier post claimed that the entire athletic budget was ~$2.7M .... I assume that coaches salary is the biggest individual line item .... $2.7 M for EVERYTHING, i.e. ALL sports .... $800 K for the football coach ... er ... I doubt it ... I thought it is more like $350 K .... in any event, unless someone who is posting is willing to add money to the pot, I doubt that your discussion of what we pay is rather moot ....
No. Football budget is 2.7 million and change.
How does CU's athletic budget compare to its Ivy competitors?
Actually, I understand the HC gets about $200K, maybe $225K. It's not BCS football.
Heard an interesting story on ESPN radio tonight. Supposedly a few years ago Urban Meyer said he was so sick of all the problems with Bigtime Football that he was considering looking for a job in the Ivy League.
so much for our number 1 choice, Meyer just signed with OSU, but Erickson is available.
Seriously, if you dont like Gilmore or Margraff, not going to even suggest tressel or bosco chocolate milk coach-he can serve the chocolate milk to the hot dog committee, why not go after a young coach from Stanford or Oregon that runs a progressive offense, is skilled in recruiting, and has been around winners. even a D 2 coach who has a similar resume would fit the bill. No softies either, everybody wants to win, but nobody wants to put in the time...and i am not talking about doing 20 wind sprints. i am talking about the administration, coaches, fans/alumnae, and players. the division doesnt help the cause. first you heal and close the divide then you can move forward.
You are not going to get any of the coaches mentioned for less than 500K. There has to be a huge premium built in for the cost of living in NYC.
If it is true, and 250K is the number, you might as well forget any and all exciting guys mentioned.
I am friends with a couple young assistants at ACC basketball programs. Both were interested in our hoops job. Both declined to interview when they found the pay was less than they were already making.
Columbia has so much money and they just can't see it fit to come off the dime a little on athletics. I don't understand it. Being good at sports has not hurt Duke or Stanford academically and it has not hurt our IVY brethren that put money and effort into being competitive either.
It is pathetic. I am not a Diane Murphy fan, but I feel sorry for her. She is not being given all the tools to do her job well.
I'm not sure you would have such ire toward the "hot dog" committee if you were to speak with some of them off the record. Perhaps the people on the committee are equally as frustrated because their input has not been so well received in the past.
I am told that Gilmore has definite interest. As far as I am concerned if we screw this one up we have only ourselves to blame.
And I heard we passed on Chip Kelly for Shoop.
The salary can be supplemented with an additional endowment. Currently there is one endowment fund which pays some or all of the HC's salary; this is increasingly common at Ivy schools. If salary is an issue, then we should all write to Bollinger and raise the roof. In addition, somebody like Camplbee should start an effort to increase the endowment for the head coaching position. Bear in mind that the salary is only one perk. We can also provide housing allowances, subsidized or free tuition for private school, and free college tuition at Columbia or half tuition at any Ivy school, which we do for professors' children. A package of 300K plus housing and other benefits should get teh job done. We have been notoriously stingy with assistants' pay; that needs to be improved or else we will pay the price. Our football budget last year was the highest in the Ivies at 2.7 and change, followed closely by Yale's. Bollinger needs to realize the importance of a good football program. So send your letters!
How about a letter wrtiting campaign? Flood Bollinger's office with letters, not emails which he doesn't read, urging support for football.
One issue which hasn't been discussed much is what the players think was the reason or reasons for our failure this season. I think our talent was certainly good and in some cases very good. We also seemed to have a lot of injuries. But otherwise, what do the players think went wrong? Specifically, what do we know about our practices? Were they run well and efficiently? Did our players think that the coaches prepared them or not? I ask because I am interested in what the next coaching staff can do to make things better. I don't think it is a complete answer to say we need to recruit better players. A lot of what a good coach does is develop players. How did this staff fall short in actually working with the players we have?
Some airhead in today's Spec is calling for us to drop football. I hope a few current College students respond in favor of the sport.
I hope a new coach can spark a facility upgrade. Chrystie Fieldhouse is a joke. There is absolutley no excuse or reason for it to be as horrible as it is.
With all the money they have given, I am surprised Campbell and Kraft do not have more influence over things like this.
BTW, The Navy OC's name is Ivin Jasper. Have no idea if he is interested, but he would be a fantastic hire. Another older, wiser guy would be UVA DC Jim Reid.
Concerning todays "anti-Football" Spectator article:
The writer for the Spec, Mr. Zhang, actually makes a case for upgrading the program, rather than disbanding the it. Respectfully, did you read it all the way through?
No one in football that I met at the hoops game last night would give any any info on the new coach, not a surprise.
A more uplifting tone on the football squad from the famous Prof. de Bary
http://www.columbiaspectator.com/2011/11/27/ode-lions
Shoop was 7-23 in three years and NW was 17-43 in six years. The records don't tell the whole story as Shoop's teams got blown out frequently, while NW lost a lot of close games. The program is in better shape than when NW arrived, though that's not a high bar.
As for pay, I am just a fan but if you can't pay $300k plus housing, you're not going to get a proven coach. And you need a budget for a few good assistants, too. It's interesting that CU has the largest football budget in the Ivies, but NYC also has by far the highest cost of living in the Ivies.
If you watched CU this year, it was a 3-7 or 4-6 team. Not great -- no team speed -- but quite big and with some very good individual players. Unfortunately, until the Brown game, they didn't play a good second half all year.
As far as this year, we should have beaten Fordham, SHU, Princeton and Penn. We were outcoached in all four games, especially Penn when Bags worked the refs to perfection and egged them into some crummy calls against us. We didn't show up for Dartmouth; whether that was a failure to motivate on the part of the coaches or not I can't say. We could have beaten Yale and Cornell with better coaching. We acquitted ourselves well in the Harvard game, especially the first half. Albany was a tough game; they had more speed at the skill positions. We had the talent with a decent coaching job to be 6 and 4 or 7 and 3. With a great coaching job we could have put 8 wins on the board. We had very little speed, lots of injuries, but overall we had some good players and decent talent. What galled me was the consistent flops in the third quarter.
everybody is in a no win situation. the budget is too small, the committee is damned if they do and damned if they dont, the players are in limbo, even murphy is stuck to a degree. the coach is only part of the process. there has to be a lot of changes at Columbia for the footballl program to succeed. History suggests that the coach is a small part of the puzzle, given how many coaches CU has gone through and the success or lack there of that CU has had.
it is the same gripes
1. facilities are outdated
2. administrative staff is borderline supportive
3. revolving door at coaching level
4. retention of athletes, although NW sure has improved upon this.
there has to be a sea change for this to change, and this is a big boat that takes a while to change. you dont change something over night that has been broken for decades.
We're all fans and it's good to stay positive, but this was not a seven win football team. We gave up nearly a 70% completion rate and more than 320 points. We didn't run the ball well. Our star QB was mostly hurt. It felt like we could've won four games with better game management, but we were not as talented as the 09 or 10 teams. Statistically, we weren't better than Princeton, also 1-9.
To 5:47 regarding "Chrystie fieldhouse is a joke". That is the case for many CU sports. But not football. Have you seen the renovations? The football locker room is first class, as the athletic training facility.
I woudl call the lockerroom better but certainly not "First Class."
Also, the outside of the buidling looks like a prison. With all the money spent on facilities around campus the last 20 years I can't believe the exteriors of Carmen and Chyrstie still look as they do.
It looks like a fancy new modern building is planned for teh Baker Complex on teh corner of 218th where there was/is a maitenance shed.
I wonder if the fascade of Chrystie will get a facelift along with thsi new building.
Glad to see some commitmnet to facilities.
You lost to Fordham?
You stink!
Case closed.
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