Tuesday, November 08, 2011

Help Wanted & Ivy Power Rankings Week 8

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Coaching Note


For all the Columbia fans who are honestly concerned that top coaching candidates would never be interested in coming to CU, have no fear.

I can report that several very successful head coaches from this area and beyond are very interested in the job and will remain so for all the obvious reasons:

1) This is still a very talented roster that could turn things around if properly schooled in the fundamentals and if it were better prepared to play each week.

2) New York City is a great place to make a career and Columbia's compensation packages are very strong when you consider the housing allowances, etc.

3) The chance to succeed here where so many others have failed is an incentive to cocky, but hard working coaches out there who want to make an indelible mark.


The only real obstacle here is the Columbia administration and the other powers that be connected to the program.

They must be able to give the right answer to the following questions:


1) Can you stomach a head coach whose personality and desire to win will make it impossible for you to overly "control" him?




2) Can you stomach the inevitable critcisms and griping that will come from some faculty members when and if the Lions start winning consistently?




3) Can you suspend any biases and prejudices you may or may not have against someone coming from a religious school or personally religious background?


The answer should be "yes" to all those questions, but I seriously doubt the crew in charge right now could be comfortable giving us that answer. If so, they should be replaced too, or at least step aside and let the adults take over.


**Oh and one special bonus question!!!**


What's more important: blocking and tackling, or having the team dress alike and flush the locker room urinals?


(sadly, this is actually NOT a rhetorical question with the current crew)







Ivy Power Rankings, Week eight



1. Harvard


The Crimson didn't look all that great this Saturday, especially in the first half. And yet a sloppy performance still got them a 14 point league win on the road and 35 points of offense.



2. Brown


Yale has had Brown's number for years, but not this year. Mark Kachmar had a career day running the ball. That's a new aspect of the Brown attack that could steamroll the Bears' final two opponents, Dartmouth and Columbia.



3. Penn

A big rout of Princeton keeps Penn in the upper echelon of the league. This will be an exciting game at Harvard this coming Saturday.


4. Yale

The 34-28 final score against Brown was a little misleading as the Bears dominated most of the day. The Elis are just not championship material, and next year they'll be without Patrick Witt.


5. Dartmouth

A well-executed win over Cornall puts the Big Green back into the "respectable" category. Is it enough to save Buddy Teevens' job? Probabaly not.


6. Cornell

Cornell's poor defense against the run and flurry of turnovers put a damper on what had been a steady rise in reputation for the Big Red since week three.


7. Princeton

The Tigers are still a mess and will almost surely finish 1-9 for the second year in a row. Other than freshman RB Chuck Dibillio, this has been a lost season.


8. Columbia

Lions fans are hoping this brutal season will not be in vain. How anyone can't advocate a house cleaning after this year is beyond explanation.

59 Comments:

At Tue Nov 08, 02:04:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Answered yes to all 3 with no problem. I have a few questions, and was wondering if you could answer.
1. Has the process started, that being, the search for a new FB Coach?
2. Does his ENTIRE staff go with him?
3.How soon will the team know what is in the works?
4. Wouldn't the new FB staff be starting immediately, especially since re-cruiting starts soon?
5. How do they re-cruit with our record, what will make kids want to come and play at CU?

 
At Tue Nov 08, 02:08:00 AM GMT+7, Blogger Jake said...

Here's the only answer I have for now:

Recruiting for next year is about over anyway. There are always some late adds and subtracts, but a new staff only needs to be in place by January or even February to do the job.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 02:18:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Usually when a new staff comes in one assistant is kept on for continuity. My guess is that Vinny Marino will not be the on ewho is kept on. It appears as if Vinny is no longer calling the plays. A very young looking assistant appears to be calling all of the offensive plays. If anybody is kept on, my guess is that it will be the defensive coordinator. PS, has the staff been told yet that there will be a house cleaning?

 
At Tue Nov 08, 02:22:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is frustrating about this season is that we appeared to have the talent to win the following games: Fordham, SHU, Princeton, Penn and Yale. We only mailed it in against Dartmouth. the only teams with a clear talent edge were Albany and Harvard. Ray Tellier with this team would have had a winning record at this point in the season.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 02:27:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

PLEASE...PLEASE...PLEASE...say it ISN'T so. NOT the Defensive Co-ordinator. Just ask the team!

 
At Tue Nov 08, 02:41:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mon Nov 07, 11:27:00 AM PST poster most of the team is happy with the new DC. Not sure hwre your getting your info. Sure you don't mean the OC?

 
At Tue Nov 08, 02:42:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No formal decisions on this staff have been made yet! Hold off! Everything is pure speculation at this point. We can only HOPE that Diane and the Football Committee have begun a prelimenary search. If not, they should resign. This year is completely unacceptable on so many fronts!

What Jake eluded to in previous posts regarding the Provost and Dean's resignation (both people of color), running on the potential heels on Norries' termination, may raise a few red flags. Fortunately, an ex-CU football player (of color) clearly stated "no more excuses, a bad coach, either caucasian, black, red or yellow, is a bad coach! We need to replace Wilson!"

The good news is that a NEW coach will be able to "get" some key people thru admissions because he is coming in so late... Oh, and i would wipe out this Staff!

 
At Tue Nov 08, 02:48:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am pretty certain we are getting our info from some of the same people. I definitely mean the DC.Different strokes etc.,i guess.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 02:49:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hire the Harvard OC, or the Brown OC. Somebody who knows what it takes to win at the Ivy level. Put a few players on the search committee, as we did when Kyle Smith was hired.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 02:53:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you do have an opening you will want to fill it as soon as possible. There are no letters of intent so kids are free to go elsewhere. They don't want to go to a school where they don't know who their coach will be. You are flirting with disaster if you take that long both because of lost recruits and losing the best coach for you to another job.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 02:53:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

PLEASE...PLEASE...PLEASE...say it ISN'T so. NOT the Defensive Co-ordinator. Just ask the team! From 11:27 poster.

I hope this was in jest. The current defensive coordinator is not well liked by most of the defense. He has a large set of vocal chords that he uses at a high volume constantly. Could you imagine "learning" in the classroom by being yelled at for any wrong answer? All year there have been posts about our poor tackling, DBs being too far off the receivers... He and Vinny should both go.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 02:58:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have always thought, when a new HC is hired, he always brings his own guys in, especially the DC and OC.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 03:31:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The tradition has been that there is one carry over assistant.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 03:33:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Based upon what we have seen this season, can we honestly say that there is a talent gap between us and any team in the league other than Harvard (I haven't seen Brown yet)? If there is, then it isn't very great. If you disagree, then how do you explain the Penn game? If you agree, then how do you explain the winless record?

 
At Tue Nov 08, 04:07:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brown only lost 1 game, to Harvard, so watch out for them (and they beat scholarship school URI as well). The Penn game loss was tight, but it is a DOWN year for Penn (even they admit it). Harvard's coach said that they played their worst first half against CU. Take that for what its worth, otherwise we would have been blown out! The talent gap is wide in my opinion. We have the biggest line in the Ivies and they pillow block. Somehow we think that we have elite RBs. I'm still waiting for someone to turn the corner (regardless of how many D-1 offers they had on the table). Look, I'm not trying to take shots, these are just objective observations. If you think differently, then you are watching a different team.

Regarding recruiting. The kids that we want have already applied ED (early decision), so we get what we get. The balance we'll have to fight for, but our tier 1 guys should be in. I say "should", but with this staff, I leave nothing for chance!

 
At Tue Nov 08, 04:22:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jake:
I think Columbia should get a coach who is physically fit--like Harvard's Tim Murphy. Murphy was a LB in college, and he looks like he can run 5 miles in a jiffy. Someone trim and fit gives the impression that the person is disciplined and hardworking. I am not saying that N. Wilson is lazy or undisciplined or that Chris Christie cannot be an excellent US president. I am just saying that Columbia needs a coach who looks like he can run 5 miles.
As for dresscode, I noticed that Columbia coaches did not dress alike while Harvard coaches wore outfitted in same uniform/clothes.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 04:27:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I recall, Garrett and Naso were both fired the first week after the last game, so I would expect that to occur here also, assuming Norries is let go.

I doubt that the school already knows who they will hire or has anyone specifically targeted.

They will do a formal search, waste two months, lose some good recruits, and set the program back a year. That is how it has worked here forever.

I had heard it was the OC who is disliked the most.

also, I am a big fan of Argast and hope he stays.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 04:29:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jake:

I forgot to add that the Columbia team that I saw was either a 5-5 or 4-6 caliber team. Not an 0-8 or 0-10 team.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 04:47:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Harvard coach is a creep if he gives us no credit for the first half that we played. He can't lose enough, as far as I am concenred. How about showing a little class?

 
At Tue Nov 08, 05:02:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

He might be a creep for not giving our team credit, but he is a winning creep! I think anyone on this blog would probably take his classlessness and record over ours anyday. I AGREE with you that not giving our team credit was unsportsmanlike.They playd that first half hard, we all agree. Knowing Harvard players,I don't think they have near the complaints about what goes on with their fb program, that the bloggers on this sight have.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 05:17:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Arghast coaches the OL. He might be a great guy, but the OL has been just terrible this year on the run game. Have we had a run from scrimmage all year that went for more than 7 or 8 yards? Five big, tall guys all around 6'5" and 290 and we can't control the line of scrimmage. We have faced other teams who are much smaller who can block better than us.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 05:20:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jake,
You sound like Herman Cain (the candidate from Mars: Mike Lupica in today's NY News).
Are you serious: the CU admin and TPTB (powers that be) are afraid to have a coach who WINS. ?
Soon you will be going after the trilateral commission.
Get a life. We need a f--king FOOTBALL TEAM. The person responsible for the "team" is the head coach. Look up our statistics with the league. We lead in the bad stuff and we lag in the good stuff. Enough said.
Doc/jock

 
At Tue Nov 08, 05:39:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This blog is an embarrassment. Jake as much football as you watch you do not know enough about it. Recruiting will be hurt significantly with a coaching change. According to my sources close to the administration the staff will be retained at the end of the season.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 05:50:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Norries is retained for another year, month or week after the season, I hope this administration is ready for holy hell to rain down on it from all sides! We will NOT accept another year of this and no one supporting these guys will be spared public humiliation.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 05:56:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not to mention there won't be any players to coach!

 
At Tue Nov 08, 06:05:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are 7th or 8th in nearly every Ivy stat: points scored, points allowed, yards gained, yards allowed, etc. We are weak in virtually all areas of performance, so it's not unfair to say it is not an especially talented team. We may have only one all-Ivy player this season, Josh Martin. Brackett in particular is so important to this team and has had a poor year, which magnifies our troubles.

All that said, we played two awful teams, Fordham and Princeton, and are more talented than either. We played a gutty game vs. Penn and lost mainly on terrible clock management at the end of the first half and the dumb penalties at the end of the game. This team, decently coached and with no heroics or acts of God, could have three wins and be looking forward to a very tight game with Cornell. Instead, we are left to pray for a miracle in Ithaca. NW must go. When he goes, we probably will lose a year of recruiting. But guess what? You don't get the cream of the crop when you are 0-10in your sixth year!

My two cents is the AD must hire a head coach with national recruiting experience. I like the idea of the solid Patriot coaches who have been mentioned here, though I have no idea if they would be interested. This silly notion that a HS coach from NJ can recruit California, Ohio and Florida is wrong. A wildly successful HS coach in Dallas took over North Texas a few years ago and got crushed for five years. It's a different game.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 06:14:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the poster who just said Jake doesn't know football, and the CU staff will be retained because replacing the coach hurts recruiting, all I can say is "WHA?"

That would mean that no matter how bad a coach is, he can't be fired because THAT would hurt recruiting.
Wouldn't it hurt recruiting more if the recruits knew their school isn't interested in having a competent coach? Since thousands of coaches have been fired over the years, I think you're the one who doesn't know football.

To the different poster who said Jake was "eluding" to something...
Please, this is a Columbia blog.
To "elude" is what you do when the police are chasing you. The word you wanted is "allude" meaning to refer to or hint at.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 06:22:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well we are certainly getting some contrasting views about the situation. Poster 2:39 says: "According to my sources close to the administration the staff will be retained at the end of the season." Exactly the opposite of what Jake says he has learned from his "highly placed sources." After Parkagate and that "bogus" (?) tale about the loaned out parkas which was strongly refuted by Jake, who knows what's really going on??
Let's see if we can win one to give the players something to feel good about. The rest is shrouded in a light blue parka of mystery and will probably remains so until season's end.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 06:27:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doc/Jock - LANGUAGE!!! And quoting that narcissist, Mike Lupica? You have about as much credibility as your Greneda Medical Degree!

 
At Tue Nov 08, 06:57:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To he poster who claims to "know" that the staff will be retained at the end of the year, I assume that you are the same individual who said that they non-existent Parkas were "borrowed" by the track and soccer team? Please... Still waiting for those to be returned. Don't hold your breath. If those idiots (I assume that you are a Staff member of Diane's as well) are retained, parties will be thrown in Hanover, Cambridge, New Haven, Ithaca, Philly, Princeton and Providence.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 07:08:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

... my predition for Columbia at the beginning of the season was 4-6 or, with a little luck, 5-5. The Ivy league over the last 4 years is relatively even with talent though one team each year might have a little more than everyone else ... I saw us play Penn at Penn a few years ago and we could have beaten them, Yale this year was beatable because of the weather, the Brown game last year, who knows if Brackett played the whole game (though, from a health standpoint, he probably shouldn't have played at all .... tough kid) ... in the Ivy League, anyone CAN beat anyone ... at the beginning of the season, I though, on paper, that Penn was beatable based on a relatively inexperienced O-line and losing all those guys on defense .... yeah, we got a couple of bad calls at the end, but their final drive and how they have played since convince me (you heard it here first), Penn will beat Penn and we will wind up with a 3-way tie between Harvard, Penn and Brown !!!

Let's get back talking football rather than University politics and personnel decisions ... GO LIONS ... BEAT CORNELL !!! ... this is a winable game ....

Frank F '70C

 
At Tue Nov 08, 07:14:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Patrick Witt article

http://dailynightly.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/07/8681959-qbs-dilemma-harvard-game-or-rhodes-interview

 
At Tue Nov 08, 07:25:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jake, since you seem to know a lot about football...it is true that these kids did not sign a letter of intent, so just what is the rule of eligibilty when transferring to another school? We've been trying to find this information on the internet but it's confusing.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 07:41:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Transferring from D-1 to 1-aa, no need to sit out a year, can playwright away. Transferring division to division, you sit out a year.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 07:56:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the poster who pooh-poohed getting a coach from the HS ranks. Listen, Don Bosco is not some rinky dink school in NJ. This is a #1 nationally rank program that plays multiple games each year on national TV! Every top HS football coach in America knows Bosco and what it's all about. Getting Greg Toal would be a major coup for Columbia!

 
At Tue Nov 08, 07:58:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about transferring from Division 1-aa to Division 1,2 or 3?

 
At Tue Nov 08, 08:21:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Flicker '87 said...

I think it would be a huge jump for a HS coach to move up to an Ivy program unless he had been an assistant for a decent period of time at an Ivy program prior. I have no idea if Toal ever coached at an Ivy or other academically selective school before but if he does not have that on his resume it would be a reach.

Some of you seem to think that size is all that matters with respect to Offensive lineman. Talent and speed is much more important. Navarro had some huge lines for the time when he was here and we were still awful... I like Argast, the guy has a long and successful track record prior to CU and he is a good recruiter. There may just not be the talent we thought there was on the o line and/or there may be guys playing with significant injuries.

My feeling is that if Norries stays he would definitely have to make some significant staff changes in order for the team not to mutiny and quit on him.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 08:24:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe this will be a "wake up call" to the administration/FB/Athletic dept.when they hear that people are inquiring about other football programs,eligibility and other schools.So sad, DO something to remedy this problem before it is too late.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 08:42:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you seriously saying the current players would not flush urinals without coaching intervention?

 
At Tue Nov 08, 09:39:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: Greg Toal. He would fail. Look up Southlake Carroll coach who went to N. Texas. Nat'l championship HS coach, easy transition bc he only had to recruit Texas and he bombed. CU is a very hard job. Must recruit nationally, AI limits hurt, players have much more academic pressure, etc. You are managing men, not boys. No disrespect to Toal. He's a fine coach. But college is a whole different game and this program desperately needs a proven college HC who can recruit. No more half-assed solutions!

 
At Tue Nov 08, 10:32:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous KSMDAWG3 said...

Reading some of these post is crazy, no recruiting is still going on, and will be up until siging day,and then after that will have some stray cats that might like to play...Second, Vinny is still calling plays that young coach is relaying it through signal...His plays calls are the same week in and week out. His creativity is 0, his ability to adapt is 0, he should not be calling plays anywhere...but to shine a lil light on the man, I did hear he was a good coach at UCONN, some men are head coachs and coordinators, some are just position coaches...Vinny position coach...Also wanted to add in that in all the games i have been to I have never seen Vinny outside after games, he runs and hides bc he doesn't want to hear the truth, but for some reason he was out after the Harvard game gargling on Harvard coaches. Rumor has it he would love to coach there...I think Harvard has a GA position open. .....

 
At Tue Nov 08, 11:34:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greg Toal has had tremendous success at the prep school level at Don Bosco, but the more logical choice is an experienced head college coach such as Tom Gilmore of Holy Cross or Georgetown's Kevin Kelly. Gilmore still has to be the #1 choice as he knows his way around Columbia and the Ivy League, is very smart, and is an outstanding recruiter.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 11:59:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jake, to state that recruiting for next year is about over is wrong. All of the coaching staffs in the Ivy League schools have identified their principal targets, but very few players have actually committed to any of the Ivy League schools. A new head coach would have to be selected by no later than December 15th and his staff in place by December 31st to make certain that we get an outstanding recruiting class. You want and need the new head football coach, if any, to say that his first class was actually recruited by him. That's very important.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 06:07:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares if Norries claims that he will make some staff changes.  This is a management issue and he (and his staff) must go!  I am amazed that this debate is still ongoing?  Why in the world should/would he stay?  Continuity?  Of what?  An 0-8 season (about to go 0-10)?  Recruiting?  That boat has sailed as our key players have already applied ED.

I assume that some of you receive Norries' post-game notes regarding his analysis and his interpretation of the game from the day before.  Beyond the fact that he is severely grammatically challenged (not sure why someone can't proof read these things), there is no enthusiasm in his writing at all!  To me, he has given up.  The fact that these kids were not prepared to even show up at the Dartmouth game is a testament to that fact.

I can't think of may positives to keep this guy, just excuses...

I would also be anxious to hear why the likes of football alums think it is a good idea to keep Norries?  John Alex and some other player from around the late 80s era have been espousing their concern about the inability of posters to leave their names.  Okay, we get your thoughts on that.  What we do not have, however, is your SPECIFIC point of view on Norries.  It is a simple question...  Do you think he should stay?  And if so, why?  Please keep in mind that if you respond in the affirmative, I can only conclude that you are still suffering from PTSD from too many hits in the head.  At any rate, I look forward to an unambiguous response.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 06:39:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

2011 Ivy League Football Leaders

http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/sports/fball/2011-12/files/stats/confldrs.htm#conf.wi2

 
At Tue Nov 08, 07:37:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"He has a large set of vocal chords that he uses at a high volume constantly. Could you imagine "learning" in the classroom by being yelled at for any wrong answer?"

Welcome to the real world. Spend a little time at any D1 team and that is what you get for better or worse. This is especially true when the team is having problems. If you don’t have a thick skin you have no business playing at this level. I don't know if the guy is good or bad. On the field at least it appears we are seeing a willingness to make changes unlike his predecessor. The defense still has issues, but, is much better than last year which is more than I can say for the one dimensional offensive coaching.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 07:48:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some said "OL has been just terrible this year on the run game". There is some truth to that, but, small (yes very fast) RBs haven’t helped things. 42 the bigger back who is fast, but, not the fastest back has made some runs in the last two weeks. With the exception of him our backs are small compared to our opponents and that does make a difference. The other issue is they are 90% of the time loading the box on us and when that happens the run isn't going to work. Quick short passes and better mix of plays is the only thing that will fix that.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 08:35:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

From my point of view, as mentioned above, we need a very dynamic, somewhat cocky coach with a very engaging personality. We need a coach who recruits will come to play for. A guy who can convince players to choose CU over the Harvards and Princeton's of the world. Look at the department now across the board and one coach comes to mind at CU. If you have ever met the cross country coach - he is a good looking, dynamic and persoable guy. His teams are in the mix for the win year in and year out. Now, obviously football can't be compared to cross country, but if you get the right type of guy, we could be much better, The running teams get great recruits, win numerous battles against other Ivies, and win. Why, because kids want to run for this guy. Lets get someone who kids want to play for - so much so that they would choose us over the other Ivies, reagradless of tradition and facility location.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 09:05:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Recruiting is everything. If our coaching staff had been able to recruit a big-time running back and a couple of speedy wide receivers to replace Austin Knowlin, all this would not be happening. We haven't had the necessary speed the last two seasons to match-up with our opponents and that's been the difference.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 09:37:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take a look at the Harvard Athletics Website if you want to see how to build a successful athletic program quickly. It is called commitment from the President of the University down. Individual photographs of each of the Harvard Men's Basketball Players with the President of Harvard University, Provost, Graduate School Deans, etc. Why not do the same thing at Columbia? Come on, if Columbia really wants to win, then from President Bollinger down, we need to adopt the Harvrd/Penn/Brown mentality and start doing what it takes to field a winning football team. Get a great head coach and coaching staff, use South Lawn, effective this fall, as a practice field (no City approvals are required, just that of President Lee Bollinger) build a decent indoor recreational facility on campus or at least get an architect to design a nicer entrance to Levien Gym, and most publicize your players on the Columbia athletics website in a manner similar to Harvard.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 09:40:00 PM GMT+7, Blogger PIKENZ said...

Anonymous agree with most of what you say... I do think you need thick skin to play any college football...But the Columbia coaches are over the top crazy with it....Berating players and chewying them out for there mistakes...the coaches are the ones putting these kids in this position,.... yeah plays need to be made...but how many plays can a defense make being on the field 75% of the game...The offense doesn't help at all....1st draw, 2nd and long draw, or roll-out opposite side of his throwing arm, 3rd and long- draw, maybe, empty with horrible routes that are designed by the coaches. The lions have players just need some coaching.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 10:21:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps it is only my opinion, but I don't see Norries Wilson as the problem with Columbia Football, but rather President Bollinger. Wilson is just the scapegoat for Bollinger's ineptitude in (a) failing to take the necessary steps to improve all of Columbia athletics and image by either building a new world class recreational facility on the new Manhattanville Campuus or the Morningside Heights Campus; (b) failing to make certain that the Columbia Football Team got a new practice field within walking distance of campus, including, most notably his unwillingness to approve the football team's use of South Field for daily football practice; and (c) lack of vision in not authrizing the purchase of additional land for the Baker Field campus across Broadway from Baker Field. Sure, the Campbell Athletic Center is being built under his watch at Baker Field, but that is solely because of Bill Campbell and not Lee Bollinger.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 10:33:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's cut to the chase Lion fans and save all our comments. The win/loss record speak for itself. The question should not be are the coaches being retained, but rather has the search began for their replacements! Let hope it's the later!

 
At Tue Nov 08, 10:35:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I completely agree with the Pikenz comment, that yes you do have to have tough skin to play at the college level. I also agree that berating players for 1 bad play (I have seen it happen many times)is very unfortunate.These kids come out on the field with their heads held high, ready to play,ready to win,excited to be out there.As the game progresses they start to loose confidence, they get chewed out, they are not taught that ,yes you will screw up,and you CAN fix it the next time.It is so negative, I can only imagine how up-beat and positive their practices are...NOT!!!!!These kids want to wingames more than we know, they want to win for each other, they want to win for their parents,the alum, their fans.Am I missing anybody?? Oh yeah,they probably still want to win for their coaches. They ar human, just like you and me they need strokes, has anyone seen that happen?
This C staff has lost ALL credibility with this team.Maybe their scare tactics would work better somewhere else.It is time for new blood, a staff that respects their players, and vice versa.Someone that will bring back their(team)love for football and their eagerness to play. Maybe they won't dread practice so much and will actually be excited for saturdays to roll around.

 
At Tue Nov 08, 11:01:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Bill Flick '87 said...

OK


My guess is after 6 years and a season like this he has lost edge and his swagger and it might be time to move on. But I am not with him every day to know for sure how he is handling all of this.

He gets my sentimental vote because he has done so much to include the football alumni as part of the family. And he deserves a lot of credit for that.

Do any of you who interact with him on a regular basis get the feeling he is defeated at this point?

Flicker

 
At Wed Nov 09, 02:04:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous John Alex '89 said...

SPECIFIC and UNAMBIGUOUS responses to you, O Anonymous One? Sure, that seems perfectly reasonable.

I have already stated that I personally like Norries very much and I admire the no excuse approach. I will also add that, like Bill Flick, I have appreciated his involvement with football alums.

I have already stated on this blog that the results speak for themselves and that I am certain that Norries understands that better than anyone. I don't think that is in anyway ambiguous. 0-10 ain't going to keep you around for long.

I have not agreed with the offensive scheme, because I cannot discern one. I have publicly called out the drops, interceptions, and fumbles at the football dinner two years ago when I spoke there.

I love Tom Gilmore and played for him. I don't believe CU will love him. I'm DON'T know anyone else being bandied about. I DO know that former search committee members have been frustrated because their picks have been ignored in the past by the administration.

To be SPECIFIC, this is a college football team, not a daycare center or a rest home. Parkas, yelling at players, hot chocolate, extra wooley mittens, etc. have nothing to do with it.

I DO know a number of players on this team and they are fine men and I support them completely.

I need a drink now. Oh, what was your name again?

 
At Wed Nov 09, 03:52:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Flicker '87 said...

Very good point about Gilmore and the possibility that he might not be the best fit for the CU administration, John.

Norries has the type of personality/charisma that works with the CU leadership and that is something that you have to consider if we are looking for a new coach.

Garrett was at odds with the admin just about as soon as he got here. They told him they were willing to do whatever it takes to help him win but it was not long at all before he realized they really didn't mean it.

Bagnoli, too. I don't know if he would have had the personality and/or the patience to work with our administration. He has won multiple championships at Penn and yet I don't think he could have survived here...

 
At Wed Nov 09, 07:59:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Leon,
You have got to be kidding,You say we are undermining the players,you also add that we should support the team? What do you think 99.9 percent of these posters are doing?You also want us to wait till the end of the season and let the administration do their jobs???? Where have you been? That is what has happened thus far and look at where the team is now.They have a loosing record,the moral is about as low as it can get.This team is NOT being hurt by this blog and all of comments.On the contrary, we are ALL hoping that the administration reads it and realizes that the TEAM, Parents,Alum(huge supporters) and Fans have had enough of their poor decision making. You have failed to grasp the underlying message from most of the posters.IT IS ALL FOR THE GOOD OF THE TEAM.

 
At Fri Nov 11, 09:07:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think trying anything is possible at this point. Whats the worst that can happen? Put the freshman player in the game so they can get the feel for next year.Nothing you do now can change 0-8 on the season. start preparing for next season and let the coaching problem sort itself out. We always make everything political and forget that some of these players want to take football to the next level......

 

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