Wednesday, February 06, 2008

Hanging with Chad

Welcome Back! (CREDIT: Columbia Athletics)

Columbia's pass defense for 2008 just got 100% better as Chad Musgrove has returned to the roster. Chad was having an outstanding junior season in 2006, when he suddenly left the team for what had to be personal reasons.

Musgrove is a very fast and good-sized cornerback who goes a long way to help replace the graduating JoJo Smith and Eugene Edwards.

But the very talented linebacker Justin Masorti is missing from the roster... at least for now. Justin actually missed spring practice last year as well due to some non-football issues. One can only hope he'll return when it counts in the fall once again.


At Wed Feb 06, 04:58:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Welcome back, Chad. That was a great interception run two years ago. Go Lions!

At Wed Feb 06, 05:08:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A few other players are no longer on the roster. However, I count 79 returnees and if I remember correctly that's a huge increase from the comparable time last year. Very good news, indeed, for Columbia Football. You must have plenty of depth in the Ivy League to be successful.

At Wed Feb 06, 06:34:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the story with Masorti? Is he in school? He didn't seem to be the same player this year that he was as a freshman.

At Wed Feb 06, 07:08:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's good news about Musgrove, not so good about Masorti, who figured to maybe start at middle linebacker if healthy, although as noted above, he did seem to tail off this past season. Injuries, or possible loss of interest?

That leaves a bit of a hole at middle linebacker, whereas we seem pretty set at OLB with Quinn and Gross. Who's your guess in the middle? Corey Cameron will be back and he started some games I believe, and there's up-and-comer Marc Holloway, as well as what appear to be a couple of outstanding recruits. Names, anyone?

At Wed Feb 06, 08:56:00 AM GMT+7, Blogger dabull said...

Shouldn't there be about 86 returnees? I heard Holloway is a very promising athlete.

At Wed Feb 06, 10:16:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ed Thomas , Mike Antonakis , Justin Masorti, Mike Egley , Javier Garza, Jordan Calloway and Stephen Hancock are those who are missing.

At Wed Feb 06, 11:11:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Additional Linebacker Names: Matt Moretto had a tremendous first year including some sacks and a pick. If he adds some weight, he will be a standout. Vaughn Hodges, Derek Lipscomb and Josh D.Williams are good linebackers and Josh Smith has the right size to become a very good middle linebacker. All three of the incoming linebackers that we know about so far are promising players indeed. Nick Mistretta of Don Bosco Prep in New Jersey is big and strong and should be able to contribute immediately. Tim Waller of Wayne Hills in New Jersey was first team all state, and Evan Miller of St Xavier's starred on the number one high school team in the United States. I assume that the freshman class will include another couple of linebackers which will make this key position even stronger.

At Wed Feb 06, 02:20:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, linebacker position should be strong, and Moretto is an excellent candidate if he likes the middle. Big question, are Ivery and Kourouma going to be good ones, and who are the recruit running backs? The linemen will appear, no doubt.

At Wed Feb 06, 11:07:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Waller more of a Bob Sanders typefree safety prospect because of his size?

At Thu Feb 07, 02:14:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Waller is gone...switched to Georgetown according to Ivy Board.

At Thu Feb 07, 02:52:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Waller is the perfect example of players we lose to the Patriot League for fullrides. To the poster that called me absurd a few months ago--not so much anymore? happens all the time. No other reason you would pick G'town over CU. Their program is in worse shape then ours by far.

At Thu Feb 07, 05:17:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought that the Patriot League does not offer full rides for football.

At Thu Feb 07, 05:45:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again....they absolutely offer full scholarships for football. And that is why they are starting to beat on the Ivy teams again...

At Thu Feb 07, 06:26:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Georgetown does not offer football scholarships. My son was recruited hard by them last year. I spoke to the coaches, the current players and the financial aide folks. They do not offer football scholarships, period.

At Thu Feb 07, 06:37:00 AM GMT+7, Blogger dabull said...

Perhaps he felt more comfortable with his ability to play right away at Georgetown. I don't know, maybe at his size he maybe lacked the speed to play at safety or was not a good pass cover guy or you'd think maybe he'd be playing safety at high school. Listed at five ten and 207 I think. If like most recruits that's tweaked a little you might guess five nine 195. If you have to play spur or SS at CU you have to do a lot of pass cover too. I think that's one reason Gross was moved from spur to inside backer where he did such a fine job.

At Thu Feb 07, 08:34:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the Patriot league can offer $ through other venues. My son was recruited heavily by Drake last year. Drake is in the Pioneer football league, a D1AA program that does not give athletic scholarships. They offered about a "50%" academic based grant(~$18,000/yr) which the Ivies did not offer. Itwas incentive to go there, and would have been nice from a financial perspective...but Norries W presence, Manhattan, the school and the history of Columbia football blew other programs with $ for the athletes away.

At Thu Feb 07, 11:23:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI - Long but informative, if you are unsure, as questions keep coming up over definitions of "recruit vs walk on" and "National Letter of Intent vs Ivy's Likely Letter". The following links and copy of some of the information is given below:

per IVY sports site:

* admits all candidates including athletes on the basis of their achievements and potential as students and on their other personal accomplishments;

* provides financial aid to all students only on the basis of need, as determined by each institution; and,

* provides that no student be required to engage in athletic competition as a condition of receiving financial aid.

. . .

* At each Ivy institution, however, only the Admissions Office has the authority to admit an applicant and only the Financial Aid Office has the authority to determine financial aid precisely and to notify students officially of their actual or estimated awards.

* Admissions Offices at each Ivy school may offer some athletic and other candidates a "likely" letter, which has the effect of a formal letter of admission provided the candidate continues to have a satisfactory secondary school experience. Coaches may initiate the requests for these letters, but only the office of admission can issue a"likely" letter.

* Admissions decisions will be communicated only by official written notification from Admissions Offices, by notification in Early Action, Early Decision or “regular” processes, or by “likely letters” after October 1, which are confirmed by one of those notifications. No other indication of a possible positive admissions result is or should be considered reliable.

* A coach may both inquire about a candidate's level of commitment to an Ivy institution, or interest in attending that Ivy institution, and encourage that interest. However, a candidate may not be required to withdraw, or not make, other applications, or to refrain from visiting another institution, as a condition for receiving a "likely" letter or for a coach’s support in the admissions process.

per NCAA Transfer Guide/definitions:

pg 23
National Letter of Intent — The Collegiate
Commissioners Association administers the
National Letter of Intent Program, not the
NCAA. NCAA schools that are part of the
program send National Letters of Intent to
prospective student-athletes they have
recruited to participate in their intercollegiate
The letters are legally binding contracts.
They explain what financial aid the school
offers the student for one full academic year,
only if the student is admitted to the school
and is eligible for financial aid under the
NCAA rules. If you sign a National Letter of
Intent, you agree to attend that school for
one year; other schools that are part of the
NLI program can no longer recruit you. For
more information, go to

pg 25
Walk-on — Someone who is not recruited
by a school to participate in sports and does
not receive a scholarship from the school
but who becomes a member of one of the
school’s teams.

Recruited — If a college coach calls you
more than once, contacts you off campus,
pays you to visit the campus, or issues you
a National Letter of Intent or a written offer of
financial aid or admissions, you are being
So, it would appear that within the NCAA definitions and the IVY guidelines, a player could be recruited by IVY, decline for any reason, and later be academically accepted by the same IVY. If they then walk on, are still a "recruit" under NCAA definition. Later if they wanted to transfer to a 4 yr / D1, they would have to sit out for a year.

At Thu Feb 07, 07:37:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Football scholarships are available at all the other Patriot League schools via need basis so I'm not sure why G'town wouldn't have them? Anyway Waller going to worst program in Patriot League is a headscratcher but looking at his size, he wasn't going to be a huge impact at linebacker(and perhaps Norries told him that) and would be switched to safety.

At Thu Feb 07, 11:32:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Need based financial aid is available at all Ivy and Patriot league schools. Need based financial aid is NOT a scholarship and is awarded to ALL students based on financial need, (i.e, family income and assets) not athletic ability. Of course Georgetown and Columbia offered my son financial aid,it was essentially the same at both schools and no different than the aid package would have received as an ordinary, non-recruited student.
If your family is wealthy enough, there will be no financial aid offered at any of these schools.

So to repeat, their are no athletic scholarships in the Ivy league or the Patriot league. Financial aid is offered based on need and offered to all student regardless of sports. At most of these schools, a majority of the entire student body receives need based financial aid.

At Thu Feb 07, 11:46:00 PM GMT+7, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To previous poster, if you are the parent of Tim Waller, can you share with us his reason for switching?

At Fri Feb 08, 01:13:00 AM GMT+7, Anonymous doc said...

I hope Masorti can return. Despite injury, he exhibited a fantastic blend of courage, toughness and athleticism. His line play against Yale and our nemesis McLeod comes to mind, among other games. If you,re reading this Jason, please come back!

At Fri Feb 08, 03:50:00 AM GMT+7, Blogger dabull said...



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