The Empty Set
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Dartmouth 37 Columbia 0
Why Dartmouth Won
The Big Green used multiple rushing weapons to amass 267 running yards. Nick Schwieger got most of the gains with 157 yards, but backup RB Dominick Pierre and wildcat QB Greg Patton had several carries each and both finished with well over four yards a carry.
On defense, Dartmouth had four takeaways and allowed fewer than 10 Columbia first downs.
Why Columbia Lost
The Lions looked lost on offense without starting QB Sean Brackett and turned the ball over time after time.
On defense, Columbia failed to stop the run.
Key Turning Points
-After recovering a Dartmouth fumble on the opening kickoff to start on the Green 32, the Lions then went four and out. Dartmouth then went 70 yards for a TD and the game was essentially over right there.
-What could have been a respectable loss turned into a terrible rout when Columbia turned the ball over on each of its first two possessions of the second half. Dartmouth scored TD's off both those turnovers and humiliation set in.
Columbia Positives
Very few, but I did like the play of senior LB Nick Mistretta who finished with 11 tackles and an athletic interception.
-It was good to see 5th year senior WR Mike Stephens back in action and grabbing some passes as well. Hopefully, he will get another win before he graduates.
-Junior QB Andrew Weiss looked comfortable at QB when he came in for a few series in the second half.
Columbia Negatives
-Too many to list here, but overall the team seemed ill prepared to play... an eerie reminder of how it looked the last time it came into Hanover two years ago.
Columbia MVP
Nick Mistretta
27 Comments:
Jake, those frozen ropes by Kempe didn't hurt their cause either. Actually thought our D backs played pretty well and tight on their receivers.
Couple of my observations and points:
The team has to do better on these road games. I am not going to assess blame, but in 3 out of the last 5 road games (I excluded Fordham), the team has gotten smoked. Last year at Brown and Yale and this year at Dartmouth. I mean big ugly losses with no show performances. Something is very seriously wrong with the away game approach. If my memory serves me correctly, there were no scores in the first half of all three games and no scores in eight out of ten quarters. What's happening on the road??? Can we ask for respectable??
Secondly, if Columbia decides to hire a new coach, please, please, please, pretty please place Bob Kraft in complete charge. His last coaching hire, on the biggest stage, was to hire a future Hall of Fame coach, Bill Belichek. At the time it was extremely controversial but incredibly insightful. His previous hire was Pete Carroll who later went on to win two NCAA Divisiob 1 national championships. His coach before that was Bill Parcells. The guy is the best in the world at hiring coaches. Let's put him in charge of hiring a coach to place on the field bearing his name. Additionally, he'd have quite a bit of cache and duende in attracting a great coach.
Other positives: (a) Weiss showed good athleticism at quarterback, handling the ball very well and passing decently. His ballhandling skills helped Garrett break two nice runs to the outside while he was at quarterback; if Brackett can't return for Yale, I would expect Weiss or perhaps a freshman to start at qb; (b) Josh Martin and Zach Ollinger had strong games; (3) Freshman lineman Chad Washington saw his first varsity action and made two solos and two assists; (4) Freshman wide receiver Dan Slivka caught two passes; (5) Delaney punted well. and moved Delaney punted well; and (6) Papas made a couple of nice runs.
Dianne Murphy knows something about basketball. She coached the sport. I submit that she knows nothing about football and is incapable of identifying those qualities which go into coaching football. Surely she must have noticed that we peaked under Norries with the 2009 team, thanks in large part to the great talents of Knowlin and a few others. But we have been going straight downhill since the 2010 Penn game, which exposed the coaching deficiencies of our staff. This year, since the first quarter and a half of the Fordham game we have gone downhill. Our players are not prepared, our head coach seems clueless on the sidelines as unqualified coordinators stumble and fumble around, and we go from bad to worse. Right now we are on the verge of the last year of the Shoop regime. Perhaps it would be best for all concerned if Norries were to offer his resignation, effective either now or the end of the year so that our future plans can be made, and that he tell our players that he is history, that they should be playing for their self respect, that they have three home games, and that they should go out and just give it everything they have so that they cam salvage a few decent memories. As far as the rest of the administration, I would like to see Bollinger and Murphy out the door as well. Bollinger holds football in contempt and Murphy doesn't understand the sport.
Maybe it's pride? Maybe it's hubris? The bottom line here is that Bill, Diane and the Hot Dog Committee (insert rubber stamp here) have picked two LOSERS for head coaches! Shoop was a disaster and this six year experiment has proven even worse! Bill donates far too much money not to truly care, but his judgement is clearly in question. Diane, on the or hand, has seen this roll out of control for the past NINE years and she has done NOTHING! The Hot Dog Committee, well, let's just say that they have bigger issues to deal with... More relish at the golf outing.
Why Norries should go: he is 16-40 overall; and 9-32 in the Ivies THUS FAR! This could go to 16-44 and 9-36.
Why Diane should go: her staff are a bunch of insecure bullies and puppets who try, in vain, to intimidate Jake! Her Shoop/Norries tenure is: 23/63 and 13/39. She could go 23/67 an 13/43.
Why do we keep discussing these same issues? I don't care when he (or they-yes, Diane, you too) go, just let them go! Give Norries a vote of No Confidence and that a search committee is being developed now! By the way Diane, I am sure that Jake is free for the search committee. I know I would like to see him on it!
Good news... What is GREAT about the CU athleti administration is the "Lions Pass"! I love watching these games that I would otherwise miss. Yeah, yeah, we lost all of the games so far, i get it. We know the State of the Union, but I still feel closer to the program. Thank you Athletic Administration!
Side note, I know that we keep saying that we have the athletes/recruits on this team to win. Well, after watching Penn, PU and now Dartmouth, I think that is in question.
Brackett, like any outstanding quarterback, is worth at least three + touchdowns to this team, when totally healthy and two + touchdown when partially healthy (Penn and last year's Brown game. Really sad that we couldn't win against Penn when he was partially healthy. We came that close to knocking off Penn which destroyed Yale in the fourth quarter of the Penn-Yale game yesterday. Well, we can only hope that (a) Brackett can return to action asap; and (b) his replacement(s) come through in his absence.
Bracket's hip was hurt, so he didn't play. Clearly, we are exposed at QB. We need to start recruiting a new BQ now. Please tell Gilmore and Margraff that...
If we were getting blown out, where was Childress? Cho? Is there any cognitive movment above the neck on that staff?
In short, President Bollinger, Athletic Director Diane Murphy, and all concerned Alumni, students and friends of Columbia Football need to do immediately whatever it takes to (a) field the strongest, best-coached team Columbia possibly can during the next four weeks; (b) make certain that the Lions have an outstanding incoming recruiting class; and (c) otherwise establish the foundation of a successful football program that achieves the very excellence symbolized by "The Columbia Campaign for Athletics: Achieving Excellence" and the beautiful new Campbell Sports Center. You know these are very simple guidelines. Does the Columbia Administration have the ability to meet these guidelines? Of course. But do the administrators have the will to make it happen? Bill certainly does, but I'm not sure about the others.
Another name Columbia may consider--Georgetown's Kevin Kelly. Facilities at Georgetown are an absolute joke--probably the worst in college football (including D-III). Yet he's found a way to field a competitive program. They won't be winning championships, but they compete. Imagine what he could do with decent facilities. And he's used to recruiting with a high AI as well.
Money talks. This will get better when the football alumni with money demand change from Bollinger, including the dismissal of Murphy and the retention of a new coach and an entire new staff with no holdovers, and offer good pay for both the HC and the assistants.
PS, the AD website has a big story on women's volleyball! Instead of a frank discussion about e failings of our marquee sport they actually want to talk about volleyball! That says it all.disse
Jake,
Google Don Brown.
Jake,
Google Don Brown.
Margraff and Kelly recruit many of the same players. Good luck gettign Kelly to leave Georgetown. His recors is not that great and Georgetown has kept him employed.
Those who think the AD, Campbell and the FB Advisory committee can make the decision on hiring the next coach are in lala land...these are the same keystone cops who brought you Naso(.102 win%), Garrett(.000 win %), Mcelreavy (.067 win%), Tellier(.307 win%), Shoop(.233 win%), and last but not least Norries...If the managers of the University Endowment picked investment managers/or stocks like the FB Advisory picked HCs I would think they would be fired without hesitation.
Lost in all the talk is the great game Nick Mistretta played. An absolte stud that has mysteriously been off the field most of the time for the last 3 years..But I guess there really is no mystery anymore...
HELP WANTED:NEW COACHING STAFF
We're not splitting atoms here. Tom Gilmore has the experience, knows the Ivy League, and actually coaches (where we currently have a void w/Norries). There is your long and short list, that's it!
Keep in mind guys we've had 6 home hames over the past couple of years and 7 in NYC (Fordham). Why are we prolonging this agony.
Here is how bad it it: I can no longer bear to read Voyforums because our program has become such an embarrassment. Last night at dinner a good friend and Stanford alum (yes, the same Stamford which is ranked just below us in USN&WR) asked how we can tolerate such sustained mediocrity. Until we demand excellence we will be stuck with mediocrity: a President couldn't care less, an AD who thinks women's archery and volley ball are more important than football, trustees who are more concerned with other priorities, and crummy and underpaid coaches. Jake is a prophet who is calling it the way he sees it, and he deserves our vocal support. Let us flood Bollinger with letters demanding change, for heaven's sake.
Watch the new Campbell Center video and you will see crystal clear why we muddle in athletic mediocrity for 30 plus years. That's wonderful they're putting that ugly building up but honestly, our facilities are( and still will be) high school-esque compared to most every other Ivy. That building will break some sort of recruiting tie? Please-wake up people.
I personally think (especially given Title IX), that ALL sports are of some importance at Columbia.
And I'm also greatly bothered by the virtual lynch mob against both Norries and Dianne which seems to gather here daily of late. None of us are terribly qualified ourselves to be either head coaches or ADs, I suspect.
Still, I remember something that the very terrible (and glib and self-defensive) Jim Garrett once said about his Columbia teams during "the streak": that he was actually worried about the physical well-being of his charges against other Ivy teams, they seemed so overmatched. (Note, however, that when he said this, he never himself took any responsibility for the recruiting of players who could compete capably.) Does anyone have amy strong opinions as to whether Norries's team has reached that sort of key juncture?
It's scary out there re Columbia football, that's all I really know. That and also that putting faith in Bill Campbell to rectify the situation isn't necessarily wise, given his own failures as a coach and even his complete foolishness accepting that long-ago job in the first place, not to mention his many other concerns and duties.
Garrett inherited every kid, his freshman team went 6-0 but they did not play Varsity
In all honesty, does an ambitious coach want to come here? we have not had a single winning coach in the history of the program. Lou Little couldn't even win here.
They will hire someone who is desperate enough to take the job but I think you are dreaming if you think Gilmore would want to come to this program. He wants to win, is CU going to show him they are committed to winning?
In fairness to Jim Garrett, he coached here one year and so he didn't really have any recruits to be responsible for. He inherited a ravaged program that had been run by a total incompetent, Bob Naso. Garrett was coach my senior year and I don't remember how big the roster was, but I do recall that we didn't have a lot of players. The QB was a converted safety. Not surprisingly, Garrett went 0-10, said some intemperate things in frustration, and got fired. He may have been a bad hire, but he didn't get a chance to recruit and develop his own players. I feel sure that if CU had kept Garrett that means his three sons would have played for him and we would've broken the streak a lot sooner.
NW has better players and better facilities to work with than Garrett had, and the Campbell Center is coming. Unfortunately, his game management and preparation is so poor as to render the team uncompetitive in most road games. Anyone who argues in favor of keeping him must ask how he is going to recruit this winter off of an 0-10 (or hopefully 1-9) season in his sixth year. He can't really say he's rebuilding. He can't say we're a piece or two away from contention. We start seven seniors on defense and we can't stop anyone. What does that say about NW's ability to develop players over four years? Worse, what is next year's D going to look like? I shudder to think.
NW's performance the past two weeks -- inept game management vs. Penn and a total lack of fire vs. Dartmouth -- have sealed his fate. Keeping him would be a statement that the administration doesn't care about providing a good experience for the players.
Of our last four games three are at home, where we usually do not embarrass ourselves, and the one away game ia at Cornell, which is not very good. So here is the question: will the team quit and lose ugly over the next four weeks, or will we play hard and maybe even steal a win or two? We'll know about 15 minutes into the Yale game. But no matter how the season plays out we need to do a few things. First, set a budget for the salaries of a new coach and a new staff which will be attractive. It costs more to live here than elsewhere, and we need to pay enough to hire not only a competent HC but competitive staff as well. Our salaries for the assistants have been below market, and you get what you pay for. Second, we need a coach who actually knows how to develop talent. Our players under Wilson just don't get better from one year to the next. Third, our strength and conditioning program needs to be completely revamped. We have an OL which is huge but cannot block. Fourth, we need to get faster and more skilled. Our WRs do not get separation and drop catchable balls. Fifth, the players we recruit lack basic football skills, specifically tackling. We are the worst tackling team I have ever seen on any level above high school. Seventh, those of us who love Columbia football have to be more vocal. We should be flooding Bollinger with letters demanding that he start showing his face at a few games and act like he cares. We should recognize that Dianne Murphy knows nothing about football and is clueless about what it takes to hire a good coach, and demand that she be replaced by Ray Tellier as AD, with his first task being the hiring of a new HC.
Re "wake up people":
I don't know if this anonymous poster is a provocateur or an actual CU fan, but if the latter, it's time to get a grip on reality and, Jake, perhaps some coments should be left out based on idiotic content, or people at least ought to have to provide signatures. Our facilities are fine. We have a lovely stadium and very good locker room facilities. The new building has looked weird on some photos and interesting on others. We'll see what it's like in a year.
-Dr.V
To pour salt in the wound, the Sagarin rankings are out and we are ranked 244 out of 246 college football teams. I believe there are 126 FCS teams, so on that level we are 124 out of 126. Very sad.
The new building may look strange to some but after some getting used to I think it will be much appreciated, and it's what inside that really counts (personally I think it's quite interesting and not unattractive).
An earlier post by someone who claims to have played under Norries since '07 says an awful lot if true. It has been forwarded to Dianne, who I think will do the right thing this time, although maybe not soon enough to satisfy some fans. I for one feel that putting things in motion for a change will suffice and it's not appropriate to dismiss Wilson in mid-season. Most everyone thought we did the right thing when he was hired, so we should own up to our responsibility for the whole business and not heartlessly take it out on Wilson.
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